Seasons, Reasons, Lifetimes | The Female Friendship Reckoning

0:00 Jennifer: Hey there, I'm Jennifer. And I'm Jackie. And welcome to Slightly Unsupervised. We're best friends, business partners, and the chaos behind bestimony, a ceremony we created to celebrate the kind of soulmates who don't come with a marriage license. This podcast is all about that friendship energy, the deep stuff, the messy stuff, and the laugh till you snort stuff. So whether you're driving, folding laundry, or hiding in your car for some peace and quiet, you're in good company. Let's get slightly unsupervised.

0:23 Jennifer: Hey friends, welcome back to slightly unsupervised, your go-to girls for the real, raw and ridiculous parts of friendship. Today we're unpacking the one kind of bittersweet truths about friendship. Not every friend is forever, and that's okay. Introducing the theme: friends for a reason, season, or lifetime. So the first segment, we're going to talk about friendships that are seasonal. And it's basically friends that come into your life for a period of time, either work or school or shared experience.

0:50 Jennifer: And that friend, you know, is an example of somebody who's like, that friend got me through college. You never talked to him after graduation, or that mom friend that with the kids that were little is inseparable for two years, and that they serve a purpose, but they're present and did help you grow, but they're not forever. And I think I'm a big believer in spirituality and that God brings people into your world when you need them. I want to just talk about somebody that I knew in high school that was like my best friend in high school and how she isn't my best friend for life, but that she was super important to me and really kind of took me under her wing as just somebody, she just was great at everything.

1:31 Jennifer: Like that's the one thing I'll say about her was that there was nothing that girl really couldn't do. But she kind of took me under her under her wing and really kind of changed my life, I think, a lot. And probably I needed her in that season of my life where things were kind of, you know, we've talked about us being in the 80s, how we didn't have a lot of direction or parental direction, and that we were by ourselves a lot in particular. My brother went off to college and my mom was single, so she was out a lot.

2:00 Jennifer: So um it was pretty imperative that I had somebody that was sort of, I guess, like a mother, really, to me, that um, you know, I she taught me a lot about just self-esteem, about what we put up with, what we don't put up with. Like she was always kind of mothering you. I remember one time I broke up with my boyfriend and she wrote me this letter that said, you know, everything happens, one thing has to end for something else to happen, and that even though we don't understand it, this is part of life, and that, you know, it's sad that we have to lose something in order to gain something.

2:33 Jennifer: Super nice. Like I've never even heard that story.

2:36 Jackie: So that's pretty cool.

2:38 Jennifer: Yeah. Yeah. She would like write me.

2:40 Jackie: Because we were young, like who were yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

2:43 Jennifer: Like at that point, I was like, I didn't necessarily understand what she was saying, but obviously it made an impact on me because I'm talking about it 40 years later that she wrote me that letter, and that's what she told me, like specifically that line, like thinking, where is that from? I've never heard that. So for sure, a huge, huge person in my life that definitely changed the direction of my life and gave me a lot of things that I really didn't have before, which was structure. You know, her family was very, I was very close to her family too.

3:16 Jennifer: There was a lot of structure with her family, and that they definitely took mercy upon my soul and took me in. And that season of my life with her, you know, is something that I will always cherish and is always something that I am super thankful for. More than anything, just thankful. The gratitude that I had with that kind of person in my life that really took me under that, like really just kind of saved me in some ways. So, and taught me a lot about just like self-esteem and like we're not doing any of that.

3:46 Jennifer: And women's live, you know, it's probably where that all comes from, is sort of that, you know, we can all definitely that way. Yeah, and that we could definitely, we don't need anybody else to help us, you know. And I did get pregnant in high school, and um, she went down to the clinic with my boyfriend and I, and I do remember sitting on her lap. Like, I didn't go to his lap, I went to her lap and sat on it like a baby, and she helped me while they were talking to us. And so, in fact, she had to tell everybody that I was pregnant.

4:16 Jennifer: I don't think I ever told one person. I think she had to tell my mom. I had to tell her mom. Her mom said, You gotta go tell her mom. Yeah, yeah. And she basically was like my mouthpiece for when I couldn't talk. So just super important. Love her to death. Will always have a lot of love in my heart for her, but she was seasonal. She went other places, she did other things, but um, super impactful in my life. So um, that's somebody that I would count as probably my number one seasonal friend. And, you know, I will always have a space in my heart for her.

4:47 Jennifer: So um what about you, Jackie? I had a couple of friends.

4:51 Jackie: I think at one time there was three of us that just did everything together, and I felt like we were always there for each other. Um, because I mean, I was still super close to you. Um, we had our friendship, but like when you got pregnant, you were gone. And these were people that I even tried to keep friendships for them. They broke up together. I wanted to keep their friends.

5:12 Jennifer: These two friends, yes. These two friends got into a fight, and then you were like, let's keep them together. Okay.

5:17 Jackie: But we just were all we just had the best time together. We did stuff that we probably shouldn't have done, but we went through it all together and figured it out. Like we got in a lot of trouble together. But we made it through it because we were good kids, but it was just something we had to go through. So there were my seasons. But I still have one that's still my friend, but the other one's gone.

5:41 Jennifer: Um did they break up good too? I mean, they you said they broke up at some point, so are they still friends?

5:49 Jackie: I I don't ask much. I think they see each other because of families, but that was definitely um we grew up together, I felt like our junior senior year doing some stuff together. And that was my season thing, only because uh one still's with me, but one's not. We just did a lot together and we did things that we probably wouldn't have done with anybody else.

6:12 Jennifer: What do you think is the lasting impression of what that seasonal friendship taught you? Like, what is the takeaway for that? And not the one that you're still friends with, just maybe the one that you're not friends with anymore. Like, what mark did that leave on your life that you go, okay, that was Oh, I still think about her.

6:29 Jackie: I still of course I care about her. Uh so the one I learned a lot from. We were all very close. We cared, we take care of each other.

6:39 Jennifer: So this person that you're talking about, it sounds like you were friends with one of them in a season, and then you obviously are friends with the other one still. So that's a lifetime one. So in the seasonal one, Jack, what would you say that purpose of that friendship served you? And your what was that it made you feel? How did it help you grow? What did you learn from that person?

6:56 Jackie: It was a true friendship where we um took care of each other. Even though no matter what happened, there was a lot of stuff that happened. Um where maybe we weren't the best to each other, but we still all loved each other and we knew at the end we needed to have that friendship. We knew we were there for each other. The guys aren't all that. We all love each other, we're here for each other.

7:23 Jennifer: So it's kind of like in high school, you have a boyfriend, and those boyfriends are super important, right? If you're in this high school world and you, you know, have boyfriends. So she basically saying that this person really helped you identify that friends would be an important part of your life and that it's important to stick together. Would you say that?

7:40 Jackie: Yes, I would definitely say that we figured out that the guys weren't important, that the friendship was more important.

7:47 Jennifer: Yeah. So this person just taught you loyalty. Basically, stick together because in the end, us girls have to stick together. So you have to have some people in your life that come in that hold a mirror and let you see things in a different way. And that's why seasonal friends can be so important as well, because they're not for life, and it sucks that we have to expand beyond them. But there's a big huge part of life that has to be grown outside of people sometimes. Even you and I, we've talked about that.

8:17 Jennifer: You grew into who you were, and I grew into who I were. Definitely not who I was, and you're definitely not who you were. And you know, it took us a minute, as we talked about, to get back together and be in the same space and adjust to each other because we had different, we'd been different people now. So, but these people that that are seasonal friends that just drop in for a minute and they teach you something and then they're gone is a tough. Okay, good. So the other the other is the reasonal friends, the raising-based friends, the defined friends who enter your life to teach you something, or vice versa.

8:48 Jennifer: It could be a joyful or painful, a breakup bestie of friendship that taught you boundaries, someone who challenged your values in a way that made you stronger. We'd always get to keep those people who change us, but we carry the lesson. And the person I just talked about could be defined in this person, this position as well. But I do have somebody that I know for a reason this person was in my life. And it's when I had my son at a young age, and I don't know where she came from, but all of a sudden she was in my life full time, and she was such a good human and such a great person and so supportive and so and I needed her.

9:22 Jennifer: She was very helpful to me. And, you know, I hold a very high regard for her, and she she loved my son and she was so good to him, and she was really somebody that literally came out of nowhere and then became so important to me. So the reason that we were friends, you know, my son grew up and she got married, had her own kids. But for those moments, for that time in that part of my life, I'm so thankful for that because I don't think that I could have really even done what I did what I did during that time where I got to work and go to school and stuff without her help.

9:57 Jennifer: So she definitely got dropped on my doorstep to to be that person in my life to really help me. And I would call her my reason-based friendship, although I will always, always consider her my lifetime friend, and she knows that. But we're not close like that. Like the connection we had was on that specific thing. So the child was the connection that we had, and the child grew up, and so I will see her and I will still be friends with her, but it's not like the closeness that we had when I had my son.

10:23 Jennifer: So she's kind of my reason-based friend and super um, super thankful for her. How about you, Jack?

10:29 Jackie: I have a friend. The problem is she passed away. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. Um, but she was definitely there for a reason. Definitely. Um, she actually didn't care for my ex-husband either. Oh my god, it's so shocking. I know, I know. So shocky for you. Um, but she was around me all the time. When I married my ex, it was pretty much your only part of the family. That was it. We didn't have like we're hung out with a lot of other people, and my ex didn't like that. But she lived like around the corner, and we lived in a very high-end area and ranch and barrage, so there wasn't a lot of kids or anything.

11:09 Jackie: So that my older kids are kids, yeah. It was all older people with lots of money. So the fact that like we made friends, my kids were in elementary school, that's when I made friends with her, and she was charged a PTA, and she literally had like breast cancer. I went through it with her, and then she eventually died because it went came back and she got brain cancer.

11:30 Jennifer: Oh my gosh, that's terrible.

11:31 Jackie: Right, but she was definitely there for a reason because believe me, she wouldn't have told me certain things, like uh she didn't think I was happy.

11:41 SPEAKER_04: Right, right.

11:41 Jackie: I didn't have you guys. I didn't I I left you guys. Right.

11:46 Jennifer: My friends, because they didn't care for um It's not that we did it, it's not that we never didn't care about you, Jack, because there's a powerless thing there that happens when you can't do anything. We can't do anything. We have to wait.

12:00 SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but she was so awesome. Like she would literally come to my house, and if he came home, she'd leave and she'd tell me he's not a good guy. Yeah.

12:09 Jennifer: And you needed that because you needed somebody inside that wasn't old people that he had, you know, kind of gotten rid of out of your life to to be that person for you. So even as your friend, I'm thankful for her. I am.

12:22 SPEAKER_04: I had to go away for a little while, yeah. And she made me a blanket just to make me feel secure because he made me feel so bad about myself. Right.

12:32 Jennifer: And thank goodness, because you were so isolated.

12:36 SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah. I had no friends, I had nothing. It was just his family and him.

12:41 Jennifer: And yeah, and so she was sort of like your angel.

12:45 Jackie: She was, and she was incredible. And she like going through her cancer and stuff, and all the teachers at the school, it was awesome. And even when I left, she was like, I'm always here for you. Like, I'm so glad you're leaving him. Like, I thought that's really sweet. She was awesome, and she gotta meet Rick before she died, my husband now, and even said she's like, Oh my god, he's perfect, right? He is what you need.

13:10 Jennifer: Yeah, right, right. Well, I am thankful for her too. So I'm glad that you had someone in there that was supporting you because you needed it, like literally, you needed it. So what a blessing to have somebody like that. I hope everybody's crying.

13:27 Jackie: It's just when you go back on the stuff, it's it's painful at times. Like, even think about her. I miss her. I think I'm crying too because I miss her so much. And for her even to see if she could have seen me, like, be so happy. I mean, she saw me with my husband now, but with my grandchildren. And then she wasn't there for her daughter. Like, her daughter didn't even have a big wedding because she's like, My mom can't be here. So she couldn't do it. So, like her kids, like, I'm still I talk to and stuff.

13:58 Jackie: And oh, good.

13:59 Jennifer: So you have like sort of a lifetime connection with them. So they're you know, they knew that that relationship was important because otherwise, why would they stick connected with you? So that's good that these are, you know, what as you reminisce and you start talking about any of these things, people should open your space, like in your world and really put some time into thinking about some of these people because they have such an important segment in your life. And you know, to stop and really talk about them or think about them just like we've been doing today makes you think, gosh, that was really a special relationship.

14:31 Jennifer: And you know, even if it doesn't last forever, I'm so blessed to have had it. So the last segment of it is just the lifetime friendships. And we, you know, we've talked about ours. We don't need to talk about it. We've got other friends too that we want to talk about. But the grace, the growth, the grit, the wild stories, a little trauma bonding, it's not always easy, but the ones who stay are worth at work, so best friends that I cannot even like all of you guys, I cannot have the best. No one else can it's like you got punished, it's like you got punished for a while, and now you've been like blessed with like all these really tight friends, and I get that.

15:05 Jennifer: Like to some degree, I get that because it's the same thing. It's like you go through some trauma, and then you have all these really, really good people in your life, and you're like, man, if I we do, we have the best friends ever.

15:17 Jackie: Like, I feel like I can do or act or say whatever, and you guys will not judge me. And that's the best thing I can have in my life, right?

15:27 Jennifer: Because you know why? Because you're not at any way being inauthentic to who you are, like an authentic friendship is when you're not concerned or worried about what you say, how you say it, when you say it, what you said about it. Even if you say something, everybody's like, What girl, what did you just say? You can be like, sorry, I probably went a little too far on that one.

15:48 Jackie: So um, we start laughing at each other.

15:51 Jennifer: I know, but nobody's holding it against you. But I know both of us have other lifetime friendships too that, you know, I want to just talk about one of them that's um a friend of mine that's been my friend forever. You know, I just talked to her today on the phone. Um, but you know, especially because I went through such a traumatic thing as a in my younger, you know, when I was when I had my son about all these people that kind of surrounded me and and put their arms around me, and I'm always so blessed by that.

16:16 Jennifer: And this is one of those people. And actually, she was one of our roommates at some point. So you are very familiar with her as well. Yes. But she worked for my mom. Yes, exactly. We're very closely. It's like, you know, shallow pool up there. Everybody knows everybody. But anyways, so this person for me is like um, you know, will always be one of my best friends on the entire planet. And um, we call each other sisters because she's adopted, so she doesn't have any. I do have a sister, but she's like 11 years younger than me.

16:48 Jennifer: So like I always count on my friends as like my sisters, like I'm all we're all sisters. I'm the only one that actually has a sister, but again, I did grow up with her and she's younger than me. So, not that it takes away from the relationship. I'm very close to my sister, but in those years when we were growing and doing all these things, she was such a big part of my life and still is. You know, I am so thankful for that friendship and that person in my life. And what a good person, too. She's a strong woman, so you can definitely call her with stuff and she'll give you her opinion.

17:20 Jennifer: And I will always give her my opinion. And we are very good at making sure that each other's okay. And I think that's a blessing to have, and uh not to take away from the lifetime friendships that I have with my best friends, too. It's just a different person. And I just want to touch base on it because we talk a lot about about the five of us. So I just I just want to touch base on this other person that you know I would consider my lifetime friend that has been through thick and thin with me. And um, so, so, so thankful for her in my life and for all these years.

17:48 Jennifer: So lucky. Yeah.

17:50 Jackie: Because I'm telling you, like I I cannot say that I have one that stuck with me.

17:58 Jennifer: Through everything. You got isolated though. Yep. That's let's talk about that because I think I don't want to talk about it too much. I don't want to get into the weeds with it, but I do want to say that this is something because other people will identify with this. I was very, I was very blessed to have friends the whole time of my life because I never felt in isolation from anybody. No, nobody was ever trying to get rid of my friends. In your case, you kind of got isolated in in your life and your friends went.

18:27 Jennifer: And this, you're not the only person this has ever happened to. In fact, there's probably somebody will listen to this and be like, wait a minute, that's what happened to me. I lost all my friends because I was trying to make somebody happy at my expense. And that's what happened. You lost those years with friendships because, and for good reason, Jack, you were raising your family. I mean, none of that's bad. It's all good, but it would have been nice to have all these girls love and support too.

18:53 Jennifer: I mean, I I can't even imagine what your life would have been like if we had not been kicked to the curve.

18:58 Jackie: But I wasn't supportive. I don't want to like talk bad, but I didn't have a mother that also supported that. Does that make sense? Yeah. Um, your friendships, it's more you it'd be about your husband, blah blah blah.

19:12 SPEAKER_04: Right, right, right.

19:13 Jackie: Even though she knew my husband wasn't the greatest. Right. You can't even get back.

19:21 Jackie: But it's true, and she needs to admit it. But right um, and I can't just put her, my dad was probably just as guilty, you know, because I was close to my parents.

19:32 Jennifer: But but there you came from that, Jack, too, right? So you came from the thing where we stick it out no matter what, doesn't matter how he's like, you've got to stick with him, which isn't the best lesson. And we gotta make sure we don't do that in the future.

19:42 Jackie: Like sometimes someone even's gotta break that that thing and say, Believe me, when my kids call me and talk to me about certain things, I'm like, Can you live without this person? Can you like I do things where I talk like my parents never said to me so obviously um talking to one of my sons, he was ready. He's like, Okay, mom, that makes sense. Like, can you live without her? Can you see her with someone else? Like that kind of thing. Mine was just about the money. Right, right. He's gonna take care of you.

20:17 Jackie: Right.

20:17 Jennifer: And that's all you should care about. And I just want to point this out because we want to make sure that the clarity's here in our our generation or their generation, which is the generation before our generation, that was important, right? To be taken care of. Because she learned that from her mother, I'm sure. And then she might she did that, and she was. I know your mom worked and stuff, but it was it was more important in our generation. There was a lot more things put on how much money you had or whatever, because we grew up kind of that way, right?

20:46 Jennifer: We didn't we were in the ghetto. We didn't have money. That's what's so funny.

20:50 Jackie: Like we didn't have money.

20:52 Jennifer: I know that's probably why. But probably that's even more why she's like, Well, marry that one because that one's gonna take care of you who's got money, right? That's probably why she was that way with you, because she didn't value your happiness, she valued the fact that someone would take care of you.

21:08 Jackie: And is that awesome?

21:09 Jennifer: No, no, I always say, and it's not you. There was a lady that I when I worked in a construction company and she would come in, her husband never came, and they were building this mansion, and she would always come in and she was the saddest. Because I'm an empath, I can feel people's emotions. Oh, she was so sad, and I was like always thinking, here she is building this gorgeous home, and she's the saddest person I've ever seen in my life. And she had her daughter with her, and it's like she sold her soul to the devil.

21:31 Jackie: Basically, she got the money, and she was and I'm not saying that some people that have money aren't great, because now I'm with a husband that's making great money and we're so happy. Uh, but when I got with him, he had nothing. But my ex was the same way, he had nothing when I got with him. But when he got that money, his attitude changed. And then, like I'm saying, and then my mom, my mom put like talking to your parents, like when you're like, you're not happy, but he's gonna take care of you, don't worry about.

22:01 Jennifer: Hopefully the generations beyond us will will do that. Don't marry for the money, marry for the life. Like you have to spend every day with this person, be happy with this person. Do they make you happy? Kind of thing. So I just think that it's just a different generation. And and you have lifetime friends, Jack. You do. It's just that there was a life where we got the light switched off, turned off of us, and it wasn't that we weren't rooting for you or caring about you. We just weren't allowed to be near you.

22:25 Jennifer: So I'm thankful that you got out of that and you could come back and you could say, wait a minute, these guys are still my friends. Like, isn't that a really nice thing to have happen where you like return and we're like, oh my God, where have you been? We've been waiting for you, kind of thing. You know, that's kind of a nice yeah. Say that. Yeah, you're back. Oh, good, you're back. Like, you know, we missed you. You, you know, that's a beautiful thing to have. Well, I'm glad to be back. And I love that.

22:52 Jennifer: Well, we're glad to have you. We talked about where you were gone for a while and you came back as like if people return, I'm always gonna be their friend. I don't I'm if I love you once, I'm gonna love you again. Like it doesn't there's very few people that I have like a lot of animosity towards. So I think um you can always re-tap into that and get back in. As long as you haven't changed so much or whatever connected you still is a connection, then you can always be friends with people. I don't think it it's it doesn't have to be done.

23:19 Jennifer: Anyways, let's wrap up. Friendship is not about length, it's about depth. Whether your bestie was here for a moment or a lifetime, they helped to shape who you are. And that's so freaking true. Like, spend some time if you can going back through your friendship list and just like who is your best friend at what time. I mean, I can talk about so many people and such the way they shaped my life. I'm always very thankful for all my friends. I've always said that and I always will be. Um, anyways, rapid fire segment.

23:47 Jennifer: Ooh, here we go. We don't we're not using names on this, y'all, because we haven't talked to people about that and we don't want to get in trouble. Um it's the question is name a seasonal friend you still think about um in your world, Jack. You're you you have still uh Kathy passed away.

24:09 Jackie: Okay, yeah. And I so I always reach out to her kids because I just still she helped you. Thank goodness that that somebody was around the corner could help you. She literally told me she was kind of like you, like that man was not good for me. Right, right. And she could see it. She's like, I see a different person when you're not with him, but as soon as he walks in the room, you change. Right.

24:32 Jennifer: Which is like I said, we anybody that was like that with you ahead of time was definitely taken out of your life because you know that's a noise that somebody doesn't need to do it.

24:42 Jackie: So um yeah, I think that I'm thankful. I have a blanket that she made me. Like I said, she passed away, and I when I have that blanket, my kids even know the blanket. They loved her too. She was just, yeah, an incredible woman.

24:56 Jennifer: Like your security blanket, you wrap around it, be like, feel like comforted by it. So I'm thankful for it too. So, Miss Kathy, I know you're listening because you're up in heaven, but you know, thank you for being a good friend for her. What did you what did your reason friend teach you? Yeah. I went through my I could have like 500 reason friends, by the way. But the one I talked about, you know, just taught me about mothering. I'm gonna give her that. Like that girl taught me a lot about mothering, and she was super supportive, and you know, I feel like probably said, This one's gonna need a little help.

25:33 Jennifer: So she definitely reached a hand down and grabbed me and was there. And so um, yeah, that's what I would say. That person really was my reason of right.

25:43 Song: Someone a lifetime friend for you.

25:45 Jackie: You and our best friend group. I think people that care about you, we don't judge each other, we don't, um, there's no jealousy, we just want the best for each other, and we can call each other, and nobody like I know I'm I'm probably the most high maintenance out of all of us. I think you all deal with stuff your own thing. I'm the one, I think, because of my background, like with my ex and my parents and everything, I need more uh people telling me it's okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, and I admit it, I put it out there.

26:26 Jackie: Like I have a great husband now. I mean, he's there for me, but it's just not the same. Like, I need that.

26:33 Jennifer: You need like support, yeah. Like uh cheering on the you got this, and I I think too for you is that, and I'll be honest with you, when you have a relationship like you have, and you lost your self-esteem or your self-worth or your self-ability to make sure that even question, do I even make good decisions? Is Guy even a good guy? Because you had believed that he was a good guy and he, you know, was not the person for you. That now you need us to be like, yeah, you're on the right path. You're good, you're good, everything's good.

27:04 Jackie: So I am my worst critic. Um, I'm always like worried about what I am doing, and I don't have anybody to talk to. Like I love my parents, but they're not easy to talk to. They want me to just do what's the best, blah blah blah. Like we've we've never been a family that's in like you can talk about everything. Right, right. Like just to be authentic about it. Yeah. So I literally like I will be depressed, and I have to call you guys.

27:34 Jennifer: Yeah. And we we know that, Jack, we know that. And you've said something to me not that long ago that made a lot of sense to me. It's like it's easier for me, and I talk more than you do in this stuff because I have been me for so long that I'm super comfortable with me, and I I know my my pluses and my minuses and my strengths and my weaknesses, and I don't really care because I've been doing this for a long time and I've been authentic. And you, you've just started that, and that's a different path for you.

28:00 Jennifer: So it's not as easy for you to, you know, you're just picking up the the ball now and walking forward. So it's like harder for you in some ways because of that, because of losing yourself, yourself and not having a support system. So you always have us, we're always gonna be there. And you know, if you have a friend like that, y'all that are listening, like understand that if you've got somebody like this and you want to nitpick them because they made the bad decision and you told them not to do that, and you should have you listened to me.

28:29 Jennifer: I told you not this, and we can do all that all day long. But that does not does not help a person to heal or to gain their strength back. Like, you have to jump into a better position with these people and get rid of your ego and be like, okay, I know what happened.

28:45 Jackie: That's why I love you girls, because you never make me feel like I'm off. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know how to actually explain it, but it just I know there's things that bug me, but and I don't cry that much, but I'm crying a lot on these podcasts. But I guess recently I think menopause isn't really getting me. But anyways, you girls, like I can say anything to, and I don't feel like I'm judge, right?

29:14 SPEAKER_03: Like I've never felt like that. I feel like if I've called my family, I'm judge. Right. And you're not my like my brother or anything, but like my parents.

29:24 Jennifer: Right, you know, because we've been there.

29:26 Jackie: Listen, Darling, it's not because we well, because our parents always think about it growing up, like even when you're going through your stuff, they always try to make us feel like we should do better. Remember? Yeah, like we were always never doing the right thing, right?

29:42 Jennifer: It's a generational thing, I think.

29:47 SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

29:47 Jennifer: But it also made us supportive Jack because we had to be that for each other, right? So, like I said, I dish it out like it's you know, it's free. Here, you want some support? I'll give you some support. Love you, you can do it, you can do it, you can do it. So easy for me because I also had that with you girls. I also got that with you girls. I just got it early and I sucked it in. It like it it sustained my life. Like I survived those years where it was really tough on me when you girls were in your strength period, and then I you got into your weaker period.

30:17 Jennifer: Now I'm my strength, like I'm gonna return it. So it's a beautiful thing to have beautiful friends like that. That you know, you have that ability to be there for them, they can return it back to you and say, now I'm holding you up. Not holding you up, but holding you, I'm surrounding you with support and love and you know, battle the battle the demons for you too. So, anyways, that is our episode today, season, reason, lifetime with friends. And we always want to invite you to kind of reflect on your own and you know, maybe you can pull somebody out of seasons and reasons and bring them into your life full time again.

30:52 Jennifer: Don't always discredit that sometimes you can always come back to that stuff too. But to be blessed to have that many friends and yeah, be able to talk about them is always a blessing. So we sign off today. If this episode hit you in the fields or made you laugh way too hard, we consider that a win. Be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your writer die. And when you're ready to make your friendship official, book your bestimony at Rhinestone Weddingchapel.com. Because the best love stories don't always come with a ring.

31:41 Song: Reuniting's like we've never been apart, and every single time we're out of eye and heart to heart.