Sisters by Blood, Best Friends by Choice | The Female Connection Women Need

0:00 Jennifer: Hey there, I'm Jennifer.

0:01 Jackie: And I'm Jackie.

0:02 Jennifer: And welcome to Slightly Unsupervised. We're best friends, business partners, and the chaos behind bestimony, a ceremony we created to celebrate the kind of soulmates who don't come with a marriage license.

0:10 Jackie: This podcast is all about that friendship energy, the deep stuff, the messy stuff, and the laugh till you snort stuff.

0:14 Jennifer: So whether you're driving, folding laundry, or hiding in your car for some peace and quiet, you're in good company.

0:19 Jackie: Let's get slightly unsupervised. Today we are talking about why best friends sometimes fill the sister space we never had. Some women grow up with sisters, some of us spend our whole lives searching for one. And when we finally find her, she doesn't always share our DNA. Hey everybody, welcome back to Slightly Unsupervised. Today's episode is really a personal one because we're talking about something a lot of women feel but don't always say out loud. The difference between sisters and best friends, and why sometimes a best friend becomes the sister you never had.

0:46 Jackie: Not every woman grows up with built-in female connection. Some women grew up with brothers, like us. Some grew up alone, some had sisters biologically, but never emotionally. And some women spend years trying to figure out why they feel like something is missing. But then one day someone walks into your life and changes the way you experience womanhood, support, loyalty, laughter, safety, and understanding. And suddenly you realize maybe sisterhood was never, never only about blood. Maybe it's about being seen, maybe it's about being chosen.

1:14 Jackie: Maybe it's about finding the woman who witnesses your life and stays anyway. Today we want to talk about that connection, the beautiful differences between sisters and best friends, the overlap between them, and why chosen family can become one of the deepest relationships a woman ever has.

1:28 Jennifer: Yeah. I think uh the first thing to think is that when you have a sister, she was assigned to you. And Jackie doesn't have a sister. I have a sister, and she's 11 years younger than me, and she grew up in a different household. So I don't have a sister in this the same kind of normal way. Someone has a sister, first of all, there's a lot, there's a big age difference between us, although it's not that bad now as we're older. Obviously, when we're younger, it was a different story. And then it wasn't in my household.

1:56 Jennifer: It wasn't like a sister that I was living with and grew up with. It was just a sister that I had. She's my half-sister, so she grew up in a different house than me. So in a lot of ways, I have both sides of this, but in a different way, because I don't think that I clarify I don't think I qualify as the sister that is a normal sister where you have that relationship with somebody. But I'm I'm close to her and and she is built in. I mean, the nice thing about having a sister is, you know, when it's Christmas and when it's Easter and when it's holidays, you know, I have my sister.

2:28 Jennifer: She's going to be at this holiday party that we're going to be at and we're going to have fun. We're close to age now as far as things that we like to do. So that has uh that's been a nice space. But growing up, and you know, from the five of us too, there's five of us that are in this best friend group. None of us have a sister that we grew up with. None of us do. And don't you think, Jack, like if you think about it, some of the friends that we have that have sisters that we're close to, we're not close to them anymore.

2:54 Jennifer: Like they've veered off and they're probably very close to their sisters. Like their core group is probably they spend more time with their sisters in that respect because they're they're sort of built-in friends, right? Exactly. Yeah. I think women can get friendship or can get close to you know, females, usually a mother, the sisters, or the grandmother, or aunts or whatever. Um but I think most of us that grew up together that are still close just don't have sisters. I'm I'm even thinking about my other uh my other kind of best friend that is in a different group, and you have one too that you have that she doesn't really have a sister either.

3:30 Jennifer: I know she's got brothers, that's kind of one of your other best friends too. So it's interesting now that we're getting to the 50 year old mark about how this friendship, how we how we become kind of sisters at the end, don't you think? Like it's and how we pe people with sisters we're not that close to. Right.

3:46 Jackie: It's true, but I do know some that aren't friends. I mean, I I had a sister-in-law that I was closer to years ago when we had our split up, but the problem with that we stayed really cl we were really close. But what happened was of course we both div got divorced from the brothers.

4:02 Jennifer: From the brothers. Mm-hmm.

4:03 Jackie: Because she was even there when I had my children. She was the one that was in there, not my husband. She was the one that was in there, and we were really close. But separation, it just um kind of hurt the whole thing.

4:13 Jennifer: Well, the connection you weren't you weren't in the same space anymore to be around each other for dealing family stuff. So you would imagine that, you know, you can kind of grow apart to some degrees. But yeah, a sister-in-law too. I mean, you can have a really good sister-in-law. I have some sister-in-laws, but they live in different states, so I don't really know them all that well either. So I really fall back on my best friends. I mean, I at least in my world, my best friends are my sisters in my mind to some degree, like family-wise, or they need something.

4:45 Jennifer: Like, I don't really feel any different about my best friends than I do about my sister. If you need something, I'm gonna provide that for you or whatever. I don't think the blood part of that, at least in my world, makes much of a difference. It's about, you know, having a connection with somebody. But I imagine when you grow up sisters, and we just have to guess how that might be, Jack, because we don't have any sisters we grew up with. About I do know, I mean, we can talk about, I guess, some of the friends that we had that had really close sisters, um, and they seemed close, but during those younger years, there's even two years difference makes a huge span of, you know, we're not hanging out with her, she's younger.

5:21 Jennifer: Like, you know what I mean? Like, right. Even though as you get older, it makes no difference. But I guess they are built-in best friend. When you have a sister, you really can imagine that there's this built-in best friend that comes with your life. And you certainly, I know my sister and I fight all the time. The difference is as we fight that we know we have to get back together because we've got to see each other next holiday. So we have to like come to some kind of term term with each other.

5:44 Jennifer: Well, you know, I'm much more willing to roll the dice and fight with my sister than get upset with my best friends because I know my sister and I have to, you know, come back together to some degree. So that's just I'm just being honest about it. Choosing each other friendship-wise, is that we're choosing each other, which sometimes is more meaningful. You're choosing someone really more like you. The other way around, you're really kind of stuck with whatever they're like, you know. Like, my sister's my sister.

6:09 Jennifer: I mean, she's not gonna she's not gonna be somebody that I would normally choose. She's 11 years younger than me. Why would I hang out with her if I didn't wasn't related to her, I guess, to some degree.

6:20 Jackie: That's kind of like your brothers, like, you know. Yeah. I have we have guy friends, and like I have a brother that believe me, if he wasn't my brother, I wouldn't even talk to him. But then I have another brother that I talk to all the time, which would be he would be a guy friend too. Yeah. You know, but the other brother, I'm like, yeah, you're only my brother, because that's we have the same mother or father. But otherwise, we have nothing in common and we do not talk. We only talk if there's a family event that we come to with each other.

6:46 Jennifer: Right, right, right. And but still, even when you when your brothers were little, I remember that. Don't talk to them. Like, we're not talking to those rodents. Like, not talking to you rodents.

6:58 Jackie: But but I've with one now we have more more common bond.

7:02 Jennifer: Yeah, I gotcha. But still, there was like a two, three years, probably two years. You guys are all born right after each other, but don't talk to those cockroaches. Okay, we're not talking to them. Michelle, Michelle, one of our friends too. That's how she was with her brothers too. Like, don't talk to her. Don't talk to them.

7:20 unknown: I know.

7:21 Jennifer: They're not that bad. But, anyways, was the sister energy women crave? I mean, women often are looking for emotional witnessing, unconditional support, their shared memories, a female understanding, someone to call first, and someone who gets it without explaining. And I think you definitely can have that with your best friends. I'm gonna just say it again because if for my best friends, that's easy. Now, let me think about this for my sister. Emotional witnessing, emotional witnessing, I guess.

7:49 Jennifer: Unconditional support. I don't think so. Shared memories, yeah, some female understanding, okay, someone to call first, probably not my first on my list, and someone to get it without explaining. That's 11 years different, so maybe she doesn't get everything. It's gonna be beautiful watching somebody grow up and then into adulthood because you're we don't need to talk about why we have some issues with.

8:10 Jackie: She only gets her and that's it.

8:11 Jennifer: Yeah, that's true. Sisters. And also, I've noticed that what has happened when you're the oldest sister is you become the second mother. You know what I mean? Like I'm watching over my sister, like she's my daughter or something to some degree. And it could be the age difference too. But if a woman didn't grow up with sisters, she may spend years unconsciously searching for the feminine emotional connection. Yeah, I think all the girls do. You are you watching that blog or those groups we're on still, Jackie, on the Facebook where the they're talking about they're looking for their friends and you read some of them, it's sometimes I read them, yeah.

8:42 Jennifer: Yeah, it's it's sad. It's like a lot of people are they don't have any connection to any girls, and they're like, I need some connection. And you're like hard to start late in life or the connection, like or they're asking questions of things that cause they have no one else to ask.

8:55 Jackie: Yeah.

8:56 Jennifer: Yeah. Or they they're they put all their eggs in that guy basket and then that guy took off on them and now they got no friends, they're just sitting there, and it's like, and you gotta have some balance in life. I don't suggest any girl do that. Keep some girls around you. So you do want someone to shop with, cry with, call, and and you know, have some kind of emotional can safety for you. Mm-hmm. That's important to have. So don't buy don't sidestep it. And also putting all your eggs in the sister basket can bite you too, because sometimes your sisters understand you in a way a family understands you.

9:27 Jennifer: And and I think in family's too, and you probably think this too, Jackie, you get assigned a duty or a certain person, right?

9:32 Jackie: So you're probably Jackie, the one that takes care of everybody, or you know, like if something happens in Missouri, they call me and I have to fly out to help out.

9:42 Jennifer: Yeah, because you're assigned that, right? That's your duty in in that family, you're assigned to that. So when you're in that dynamic, you don't get to play anything but that part. So at least with your friends, you don't have to be the one that has to solve everything, right? Or you're not the one that we've labeled as call Jackie, she's gonna fix it all, like you know, your family would.

10:03 Jackie: Jackie needs, yeah. Maybe not do that all the time.

10:06 Jennifer: But we don't have you assigned to that. I mean, we do to some degree. We count on you for a lot of things, but not like not that. Yeah, so that's yeah, pick everything up on if if our world falls apart, Jackie, you gotta come fix everything. So thank you for that.

10:21 Jackie: I appreciate that.

10:23 Jennifer: Yeah. Why best friends can become deeper than sisters. Um, this isn't anti-sister, but really some's their soulmates. You know, I'll say that about a lot of my friends, like just really tight, close connections. And you know, some sisters are strangers too. Uh let's not just assume everybody has a sister likes them, because certainly there are some that do not get along. And I will throw my sister and I in that and every other week. It's not that bad, y'all. I'm just kind of picking on her, but I'm just saying that it's you know, it's dicey.

10:55 Jennifer: That's the best word. It's a dicey day if we're gonna get along or not. So um some best friends become emotionally intimate, more emotionally intimate than family. You probably have that, Jack, right?

11:07 Jennifer: Yeah. There was a time when it was parents on their own. Nobody I mean, it was just the two of us, so we heavily relied on each other for just definitely. Yeah, just somebody to lean on emotionally. So and you know, your best friends really even your friend sisters, I don't know if you tell everything to your sister. I don't know if I've gone through every life experience of my sister and told her, nor would I want to. Some of that stuff is like, you know, and you do it.

11:32 Jackie: Oh, and especially when you're younger, like when you're going through your pregnancy. Teen I mean, she was what? How old when you're yeah, I don't think you're sharing that's that time of your life with her.

11:45 Jennifer: No. I don't think she was a big support system for me at seven, so it's probably more like She's just having a baby. Yeah, she was excited, that's for sure. So um, but there's some pain. I mean, I I've got a sister a little bit, but I'm sure there's a pain of and did you ever have that, Jackie? Did you ever like wonder at what it would be like to have a sister?

12:03 Jackie: I'm so yeah, because I had brothers that were like like you said, we were me and my brothers were a year apart. My mom, da da da. I was the oldest, then my neck next brother's a year younger, then the next one's a year younger. And so my brothers always shared a room together. They were always like talking, like when we got into trouble or we had to be in our rooms. My brothers had each other, you know, to talk. And I remember how close they were. And me, I'm I was alone. It was just me. And it was just like, wow, I want to be with, I want somebody.

12:29 Jackie: Right. I want somebody to talk to and to be with. And I didn't, I I didn't have people over all the time. Like I many reasons. Like my parents didn't care to have for us to have our friends over all the time. That's why I was probably the opposite. Where my friend, my kids, I was like, Oh, all your friends are welcome all the time. It doesn't matter. We were at an open door pol. I mean, they could come anytime. Right. You know, that type of thing. Right. And then sometimes I was just embarrassed to have my friends, right?

12:55 Jackie: You know, nothing bad. I mean, it was just that's just how it was in our generation, you know what I mean? Right. Um, our parents were too busy doing their things.

13:03 Jennifer: Um left a lot of exposure to your life when you had people over because they were like, this is interesting. Yeah.

13:10 Jackie: Smells like pot.

13:14 Jackie: Yeah, but you understood it all. So it was all good. We both kind of came to things where I knew what was going on at your house, you knew what was going on in my house. So we understood each other. It was like, okay. Yeah. You know, we didn't have to worry about now, there's no judgment either way. Now we go to other friends, and oh, they're sitting down for dinner at the table with their whole family. What? What? What people really do this? This is only on TV.

13:35 Jennifer: And I think too, for me, even probably when I was younger, was like, where's my sister? Like, I would be like, you know, your friends have sisters. There's, you know, people in your life that have sisters.

13:45 Jackie: It was lonely. It would have been great to have a sister to talk to and do. That's why I wanted the phone. That's why I want to talk on the phone.

13:52 Jennifer: Right.

13:52 Jackie: With my friends, with you, you know. Right.

13:55 Jennifer: Right. Go over the uh go ever every detail of the day that really has no importance, but at least you're talking to somebody. Somebody's witnessing your life and is experiencing it with you and be like, yeah, I see you, I validate you. That all happened.

14:07 Jackie: So Or to have somebody when you were sad, like maybe a boy breakup or just something that you're sad about. Because like I said, like I've said, I mean, I love my parents, but they were the parents of the 80s, and they you didn't go to them and talk about something that you were so upset about. At least I didn't. I don't know, maybe others were able to, but I didn't go and say what you know, this this person made me sad, or you know, oh, this boy made me upset. You know, you didn't talk about those things.

14:31 Jackie: So it would have been nice to have as a sister that I could have sat and talked to about those things, you know, and get it off. And had a sister going, Oh, it's not a big deal. It made me feel better for the next day. No, I'm still dwelling on it the next day because I had more process.

14:44 unknown: Yeah.

14:47 Jackie: Because I only had a few minutes to talk on the phone, otherwise, my parents would tell me to get off.

14:51 Jennifer: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Well, we have we also had it always reminds me of that because at least in high school we had that one friend, and you know what I'm talking about, who was like a mother figure on top of being a friend, right? So, like you would go to her with your problems and she would tell you what to do, which was nice, even though she had her own sisters and we don't talk to her now, but she has her own sisters now. But somehow she knew what to say about everything, which was really nice too, which you know, she probably told me things, and then you told me something, and I'm like, well, this is what she would tell you to do, because that's where that wisdom comes from, right?

15:23 Jennifer: So without her, it'd have been rough. So thank God we had her in this little world. Anyways, what makes a woman feel like a sister? Consistency, emotional safety, loyalty, honesty without cruelty, shared history, forgiveness, showing up during the hard seasons, protecting each other, and then laughing through the pain. You know, you can definitely see that there are things that sisters give, the friends can give. I think the only difference is one's a built-in one and the other one is, you know, somebody you choose.

15:54 Jennifer: I think there's a I have a sign around her. One of my friends gave it to me, but it said friends of the family. Maybe it was some shot. Friends are the family you choose. Not necessarily the family, but the one that you actually choose to be part of your family. So I always like that sign. It always makes me feel good that she gave that to me because that's true. We choose each other's. Anyways, I we just wanted to touch base on it. That's you know, everybody's got this need for a woman. And if you got don't have a best friend, you can certainly, I mean, you don't have a sister, you can certainly find that as well into as a best friend.

16:24 Jennifer: And if you find the right one, obviously they're not all all built the same, but for the general part, your best friend should be very close to being like a sister to you. So all right. All right, Jackie, let's do the bestie fi rapid fire questions.

16:38 Jackie: You go first. When did I when did we stop feeling like just a friend?

16:41 Jennifer: Pretty close. Pretty soon, I think. Yeah.

16:44 Jackie: Yeah. But I think when I really, really like uh felt well, I think it was senior year when you got well, when you got serious with that boyfriend, the one that you had a baby with.

16:54 Jennifer: Right.

16:54 Jackie: I felt like I was like mothering you. Right?

16:57 Jennifer: I think everybody was mothering me. I would need a mother.

17:00 Jackie: I think if you would have if if you would have taken our recommendations better or listened to us, then but then thing would be way you your whole life would be different. But you know what I mean. Right, right. When I would tell them to get away from my locker, to get away from you.

17:13 Jennifer: I know. All that. Yeah. I think there was a lot of like protective energy that came out with all my friends, which I'm, you know, I'm always the one that says that, you know, I've always appreciated that because I do think you guys rallied around me so well w during that time and I needed that. So I'll never forget it. It's super important. But yeah, I think that, you know I think you just feel a connection sometime with somebody. But I think for you and I we got we got super close super fast, and then we were we were pretty much inseparable after that, right?

17:45 Jennifer: I don't feel like I don't feel like there was ever a time, you know, maybe in the beginning, but I don't know. We were pretty close pretty fast, I think. To me at least. Okay, Jack, what's something a sister would do that you think we do for each other?

18:01 Jackie: We take care of each other. And always there for each other.

18:04 Jennifer: Yeah, for sure. And you can rely on them emotionally, like it's a dumping ground, somewhere like having a problem, help me through this. So I think we have that, don't you?

18:12 Jackie: Oh, definitely.

18:13 unknown: Yeah.

18:14 Jackie: Then and now, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Okay, go ahead. Okay, the next one. Have you ever you've not having female closeness before friendship? Sure. When I was young. Yeah, and our sisters. Mm-hmm. And when we were broken up, because I really didn't feel like I had that. You know what I think too five got together back together.

18:35 Jennifer: Yeah, brought you back to your friendship world that you had to give up. But I think too, I don't know, maybe you've never thought about it, but I always especially for me, I'm aggrieved about it, but I just want to bring this up is that you always I think especially when you're younger, you always like think it would be really cool to have a twin. Don't you? Did you ever think that like somebody was your twin? Like you could be really close to somebody if you had a twin sister.

18:57 Jackie: Well, you know, my dad was identical twins, so it didn't always look that great.

19:01 Jennifer: No, you kind of had an inside scoop on that one.

19:04 Jackie: Yeah, I knew their stories, so that's it was just another day in the in the life of the twins, so you know.

19:12 Jennifer: Yeah, exactly. Well, for sure, we grew up some sort of female closeness when we were younger. That's how we really found our friendship group that really helped us. Okay, what's one thing about our friendship that feels familiar family-ish?

19:23 Jackie: Our history together.

19:24 Jennifer: Yeah. Yeah.

19:26 Jackie: Mm-hmm.

19:27 Jennifer: It's nice to have somebody in your family. As somebody that watched you grew up that knows all the kind of things that happened, and you're not explaining or what I mean. Like, I know when she acts a certain way or something, there's there's a part of her life that is coming through there, or vice versa, you know what I mean? Like some kind of trigger or something. It's like, oh yeah, that's because of that. So it's it is nice to know that. Um, I was with some girls last night. I had a glass of wine with them or we were talking to them, but it, you know, you have to one of us telling the history, and it's like you have to, well, what happened then?

19:58 Jennifer: Well, what happened then? Like trying to help her figure out on a feeling that she was having, but it's like, well, how we gotta go farther back. Like, what happened to you when you were a kid? Like, you obviously feel this way because of something. So those are the things that we get to skip, right? Because we're like, oh yeah, that happened to you or whatever. So you kind of know the history without trying to have somebody completely expose their life. And that's kind of what felt like last night.

20:19 Jennifer: It was like we wanted to be sympathetic, she was obviously having triggers, but it couldn't figure out what it was from. And I'm like, something's triggering you. What is happening to you?

20:26 Jackie: That's did you ever get it out of her?

20:29 Jennifer: I don't think so. I think we went back and it was like we moved on to another subject, maybe as a group, but you know, if it was you, I would we wouldn't even be talking about it, be like, yeah, yeah, I think that's because of so and so and such and such, and that's why you're that doing that. So, anyways, okay, you're next, Jack.

20:45 Jackie: Do you think chosen family can sometimes heal childhood loneliness? 100%.

20:50 Jennifer: We had that. We're prime examples of that. Mm-hmm. You and I because we were lonely. We were by ourselves a lot as in the times that we came together and we became friends. So it definitely healed quite a bit of that loneliness that both of us had. And that's probably why we were inseparable after that, because it felt better to be seen than to be alone. So okay. What makes a woman emotionally safe? I think loyalty to me, like truth telling loyalty, just somebody that that's there too, right? You gotta be able to count on them.

21:18 Jennifer: Yeah, those are good ones. Yeah, a lot of women can be around, but if it's if it's good for them, if you can find somebody that goes, okay, is it good for you? Is it good for you to for me to come? Do you need me? Like, those are special people because they're not worried about themselves as much as they're worried about you as well. So I think that makes somebody feel safe. You know, Jackie will jump on a plane. It's happened to me. I've broken my arm, and she's like, Do you need me to come? And I'm like, Oh, well, I'm okay, it will be okay.

21:45 Jennifer: But like, that's a true, that's a true best friend. Like, do you need me to get on a plane and come? And I'm like, No, I'm okay, we'll be okay. I I'm gonna have surgery or whatever. But those are things that that I would say makes a difference between a friend and a best friend is somebody that would drop everything to run out to get you. And it's not that my other friends would wouldn't do it. It's just they work. So Jackie had the time. She says, Do you need me to come? I'll come. And I'm like, no.

22:08 Jennifer: But that's something to me that really sort of defines the difference. I mean, even so more so than my sister, who's down the road. You know what I mean? Jackie's gonna fly across the country to come help me and you know back to the sister thing. Anyways, okay, you're next Jack.

22:21 Jackie: Why do women need female connection differently than men often do? Because we're emotional creatures.

22:27 Jennifer: Um we are we need we need connection. I don't think boys need the connection as much as we do. I think they are more programmed for competition or just dudes getting together but we have to have that connection with you somebody. We have to feel validated by somebody our feelings we're just more emotional. You know that's we are it's just the way it is. Guys just don't need that validation. I was talking to my the girls around my neighborhood yesterday and I'm like well I heard the story my husband came home and told me the story and I'm like well what happened?

22:57 Jennifer: He's like what do you mean what happened? I'm like so did they break up? What happened? He's like I don't know they just said that you know they're not living together anymore. I'm like well what happened? Like I want to know all the scoops husband's just like they obviously broke up I'm like obviously but why? I need more I need more give me the scoop this isn't enough. So yes male women need connection because we are emotional creatures. We need it. We like the story. All right Jackie here's one what's harder to lose a sister or a best friend?

23:25 Jackie: Well now how would you know that you don't have both hard I know I think they could both be hard. I mean unless you just hated one of them or obviously you would hate your sister because a best friend you've made a best friend right so um I think either would be hard of course of course anything's hard. Yeah you know it loss of anybody's hard yeah for sure.

23:42 Jennifer: Yeah at 18 years old though if you asked yourself this and you had a sister we'd probably go the best friend I don't care about my sister. It's at that age you don't right it's like your brothers and you're like Yeah if you had an age group on it it'd be a little different. Maybe even in your 20s you're like I don't care about my sisters because you know you're moving on. So once you get to 40 I care about my sister too.

24:03 Jackie: So do you think friendship can become soul level love?

24:07 Jennifer: Yeah 100% 100% I do believe that. And I believe that if you have a good friend then you'll know that. That is not even a question that if you if you don't have that then you haven't had the right friends. That's all I'm gonna say. Because once you know you've had it, you've had it. You know I hope you get it because it's a beautiful thing to have.

24:25 Jackie: Okay Jackie what's no I'm gonna ask this one to you because I think it's better for you. What's one thing you hope women listening understand about friendship after this episode. This is good for you. Okay. Good question.

24:36 Jennifer: Well I think that women should understand that your best friend is just as valuable as a friend than as a sister can be as well because I think they they have they fill a void that we all have and they can really make your life feel more blissful or more more powerful if you have really good friends and and sisters too. I have both so it's better for me to answer this but you know your friendships your friends are like different kind of level of understanding at least in my world my sister and I are 11 years different so there's a little difference there.

25:09 Jennifer: But like when we talk about songs, when we talk about genres of music we talk about the way we dress we talk the way the hair was all those things right with my best friends are very fluid we're valid everything knows what I'm talking about. I could talk about it's a rock band ACD yeah and my sister's like who I'm like you know Def Leopard you remember their songs and she's like no clue because it's a different generation right so that's my take on it. Don't don't bite past your best friends. I think they they can be just as good as sisters if not better just because you understand each other better.

25:44 Jennifer: Okay here's in conclusion I think one of the most beautiful things in life is realizing that family doesn't always arrive the way you expect it to some women are lucky enough to be born with sisters who become their best friends and some women spend years searching for that kind of connection until life quietly places someone in front of them who becomes home. Not because of blood not because they had to stay but because they chose to and honestly there's something incredibly powerful about being chosen.

26:09 Jennifer: A real best friend sees your flaws, your history your mess your growth your reinventions and keeps showing up anyways that kind of love matters because women who are never meant to do life alone we need witnesses we need softness we need laughter we need someone who remembers who we are when life makes us forget and if you've ever found that person whether she's your sister or bled sister by blood or sister by choice hold on to her because female friendships is an extra it's essential and for some of us it becomes one of the greatest love stories of our entire lives if this episode hit you in the field or made you laugh way too hard we consider that a win.

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